Episode 14: Saudi Arabia, MBS, and Everlasting War w/ Medea Benjamin

In this wide-ranging interview, Oats speaks with celebrated activist and writer Medea Benjamin about Saudi’s Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (MBS), Saudi’s Twitter spat with Canada last year, and how to connect questions of everlasting war with climate and environmental issues.


Medea Benjamin is a prominent activist and writer. She is the co-founder of CODEPINK, an anti-war organization, and Global Exchange, an advocacy group for fair trade. She has also authored three books, most recently Inside Iran: The Real History and Politics of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Follow her tweets at @medeabenjamin.

Judith Deutsch is a member of Independent Jewish Voices, and former president of Science for Peace. She is a psychoanalyst in Toronto.